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11 years 5 months before #44669 by manual-mecanica
Manual-Mecanica response on the subject Exchange of opinions about the F9Q engine
Hello everyone, Ismael please tell us if you fancy details of the 1ZZ fault, Chile does not arrive for normal import, I would like to know details of a Toyota engine with design failures: Laugh: : Laugh: : Laugh: . With respect to electronic control in F1 my opinion is the following: they are different times, those turbocharged cars errrra would be terrifying, they did not forgive errors in the most minimal (according to stories of epoca drivers). However, in my opinion, they had (the pilots) an advantage with respect to the current ones; bidirectional telemetria. that is, the ability to induce remote via (electromagnetic signals) changes in the behavior of the main car systems from boxes. At present, telemetria is strictly regulated by the FIA ​​(unidirectional), although always in the F1 teams there must be people expert in skipping rules without being discovered (techniques of hiding software in other systems, for example) exist and have always existed. Today in "Theory only of the car outward." Today, although technically better cars are better, bone more easy to drive, the pilot must generate those change orders for different parameters (70 approx) from the current F1 steering wheel using hands and feet, which is not less. According to complaints of themselves, they are work overloads and ask the FIA ​​to allow bideecxational telemetria again, mainly for their safety. Only opinions, different times.
On the F1 Renault V6 Turbo engines, which can tell you "beasts": EVIL: : EVIL: : EVIL: , those engines were calculated at 1500 and more HP, as you say.: Whistle: : Whistle: : Whistle: . The engines to those pressures lasted 2 laps:( :( :( , in races more conservative supercharging manage: Woohoo: manage They put in trouble the Ferrari electronics programmers, in the sense that these types can generate approx 5 to 7 orders to the general control module of the F1, almost at the same time. Productioning "Atocation" in the electronic communication network of the car due to the rapids so dan multiples orders to a driving aid system that currently gives F1 security. Opmnions only: Cheer: : Cheer: : Cheer: .... Greetings cordials.

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Hello, what a good illustration of what F1 is today !! As I told you, the big difference, and the balls that had to have a bug of those with "only" the tip of the foot to the 1500cv: EVIL: , and that Renault ... already part, the serial cars, r5, r12, r7 (it was my first car), r11, etc ... those there was nothing more to change the oil, and the platinums and little more Problems ... = Commerce-Negocio, R12 are still seen all over the world, to see in 30 years, how many megane/lagoon are alive, time will say: P . Well, we must admit that brands and workshops have to live on something, but I do not agree to disappoint who trusting in the prestige won of a brand, pays about 14,000 euros and then I do not take it out of the workshop, I do not get it out of the workshop. The case of Celica, I have already seen in three engines and the "little thing is that the connecting rod of the 3rd cylinder, because when it is around 130,000km, it starts" above "and the owner =: HUH: the mechanic =: Pinch: , in the Toyota =: blush: O: Whistle: and in the end the owner =: Ohmy: :( in short that the connecting rods, they seem to me little diameter, and the caps, or are excessively soft of grease in this part of the crankshaft, or there is a problem of tolerances between connecting rod and cranks, or that a game of engines mounted by apprentices that nobody has supervised, but it is not normal in Toyota, I repeat, in my hands 3, and which, when disassemble rectify) .. New PA engine each (of scrapping) of which one of them a year, breaks in the same way ... If you are looking for the Internet, you will see this, comment to see if it coincides.;)

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Hello everyone, :) Ismael, look for in the net and you are right, the 1ZZ cannot be statistically normal. Ha and I forgot before Achile started, few arrived, but Made in Brazil, and for what I have observed they did not get good either. It would be too much statistical considence, the numberus does not lie.
With respect to the poorly designed an opinion, my opinion after studying a paper of objectives and characteristics of the 1ZZ/Fe that attached more another one that I could for a time reading visiting the gringos my opinion is the following
Mainly as you observe well, it is not a geometrically harmonic engine.
In the paper of design objectives of the Global Collaboration Motor USE/Japon, it was made in the United, :( : HUH: ;) ., The whole time to develop a major engine is spoken that the previous one in all aspects less reliability : Ohmy: . that the main geometric proportions of the engine are pee, with a very small diameter; or in relation to its long career, long relationship of the rod vs volteo or distance from the center of the cranks to the center of the rod puno, distance between centers of each cylinder (to make it short), according to a good opinion that I read in this regard generates moments of inertia in Light insufficient (resonance phenomena), chronic engine tendency to detonation (rod picnotes) : Whistle: , etc. In my opinion the designers entrusted them with something for which they gave them few resources, a outdated technology for the requirements they requested them (eg lowering the mass of the engine with respect to that of previous generation using the same processes and meterial : Woohoo: : Woohoo: : Whistle: ... eg that you saw Puno de Viela smaller; or that similar engines contracted previously. Toyota learned the lesson and discontinuous the engine in 2007 (Wikipedia), and then make them better technologically speaking, but actulously due to the hi tech applied and much more applied.
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Note what Ismael says, to deal with such a bull, you have to have balls. Here is clearly the violent corrections that the pilot should make, so as not to kill ... another time, or the slight chirido produced by the carbon discs in the 80s : Whistle: I love my staff. : Laugh: : Cheer: B)

Attached Paper if you feel like checking it and commented, greetings. PD I couldn't attach it :( : Blink: : Pinch: Google: 1zzfaDesigndoc is in pdf greetings : Pinch: : Pinch: : Blink: : S ... ;) .
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